- Just a humorous conversation I had on FB on how possible it would be for David to kill Goliath so quickly in D&D terms. Some earlier, less insightful posts, are not included.
Me: David kills Goliath with a sword, not a sling. David hits him with a sling (since Goliath is aware of him, the only way he's getting sneak attack damage is if Goliath lost initiative and is flat-footed when David looses -- David might need a certain feat for that), gets a stun and knocks Goliath prone. Then, while he's stunned, Dave picks up Goliath's sword (short sword for Goliath cause that's all they had in the Bronze Age, translates to I guess a broadsword in Dave's hands -- as a rogue, he may still be proficient depending on which edition of D&D we're playing) and attacks stunned, prone Goliath, gets sneak attack damage if G money is denied his dodge bonus for being stunned.
- MD: "David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword"
It's a little vague whether or not the killing happens with the sword, or if it's poetic, and the sling did it.
That said, without a weird build, I don't know of any way for a sling to make one both prone and stunned without just knocking you out. Stunned alone would leave Goliath upright.
- Me: If we presume that Saul has levels of cleric, Saul may be placing a buffing effect on David in 1 Sam 17:37.
- Me: and they never refer to Goliath as a giant. Which means we have no reason to think he has hill giant hit dice. He was a large, perhaps Enlarged human.
- Looking at the encounter calculator, David would max out at level 9. And that assumes that by that time, he's killing off wolves in job lots of 20 at a time.
(Level 12 if we assume that he's doing the same thing to bears, but that is pushing the text quite a bit.))
- Goliath has been a fighter since 1st level (1 Sam 17:33) so he got 10hp + Con bonus, but we have no way of knowing how many more levels Goliath achieved.
MD: And note, David does not say that he cannot USE armor. Just that he is not used to them. If he took the Vow of Poverty that limits you from using most weapons and wearing armor, he'd get a good handful of abilities from that. (though that may prevent him from using Goliath's sword.)
Basically, if David is a 9th level rogue, and Goliath is a 6th level fighter (minimum for Leadership) stuck with masterwork gear, we're looking at the inspiring story of a PC who kicks the shit out of a character fairly weaker than he is.MD: Indeed, David is "Glowing with health" like the ability to resist the elements, manage with the relatively crappy diet of a shepherd, and maybe literally just glowing, all stuff from VoP, or other Exalted feats (including the one that gives you d8 sneak attack die.
- MD:That's fair. He could have ditched the vow later, but probably not. BoED is pretty cheesy anyways.